At the beginning of 2017, a Dave Rubin, a well-known comedian and host of the “Rubin Report,” reached out to Bishop Barron to invite him to an interview.
If you don’t know who Dave Rubin is, TabletMag considers him to be the the “voice of liberals who were mugged by progressives.” He is – they say – a “39-year-old pro-choice, pro-pot, recently gay-married atheist with a strong allergy to organized religion.”
In other words, as Brandon Vogt puts it, Dave is, in principle, the opposite of Bishop Barron. Still, in seeing that Dave does indeed sincerely try to understand his guest’s point of view, they decided to do the interview. The results have been very interesting! Here are some comments form the YouTube channel, to see more of them check out Brandon’s article.
Brandon comments on the interview saying:
I encourage you to watch both parts of the interview. Bishop Barron did such a marvelous job. He was smart and eloquent, even when Dave pushed the discussion toward hot-button issues.
In fact, I think the interview offers a sort of masterclass in apologetics and evangelization. The answers weren’t perfect, and like any guest, I’m sure Bishop would love to go back and rephrase one or two of them (always the case with any unscripted, wide-ranging, hour-long interview.) But his responses are the best I’ve seen on several prickly issues. They’re sharp, clear, funny, and winsome, and confirm Bishop Barron’s intuitive grasp of expressing the Faith in the right way, with the right words, with the right sensitivities.
Below, I have separated the 1-hr full interview (if you would like the uncut version, scroll to the bottom of the page), into 21 questions to make it a bit more digestible and accessible.
Thoughts on Youtube comments.
Thoughts on a good religious argument.
Thoughts on the New Evangelization.
Thoughts on the sex abuse scandal and a hyper-moralizing approach (especially about sex).
Thoughts on human dignity, and the difference between moral law and and laws that should be enforce in society.
Thoughts on how the Church can’t follow the polls. Then Church is extreme in its demands and extreme in its mercy.
Here I am going to admit a difference on opinion with Bishop Barron. I couldn’t agree more that the message we transmit as Christians must be, above all, the personal encounter with Christ. Without that encounter, certain demands and conceptions of Christianity are difficult to fully comprehend and accept.
Bishop Barron is clear in saying that the legal approval of same-sex marriage is harmful for society, but he is not insistent that the Church should strive to reverse that ruling. While I do not personally feel called to engage this subject in the legal sphere, I think that we need to be explicitly supportive of those Christians who do.
Put simply, I would go a bit further than Bishop Barron and say something like this: I don’t think it’s a good law, I think it causes harm to society, and I think that that it should be reversed. Whether this is a real possibility in the short term, probably not, but that doesn’t mean we should simply concede the argument in the public sphere.
Thoughts on masturbation and pornography.
Thoughts on Abraham Lincoln and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Thoughts on Christian tolerance.
Thoughts on the style of humor of the biblical prophets.
Thoughts on the demonization of men.
Full Version in 2 Parts
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